Well yes the VR is working with App8.302 and with tim, English UK (the only voice it recognizes at mo) I did put Kath on but she nowhere to be found. I did have to re`load the ASR file though as it had all but gone (only the support_asr.dat that I put in myself was left) And I must say its running as though on drugs-ie-very very quickly no hanging around !! Still no icons in the menus only the in the quick prefs menu. I wounder what exactly I have done to start with, to have caused this trouble in first place ?? Oh I noticed that the App states that it is for go,one xl and rider, instead of Go 530,730,930, didnt read that way when i first got the 530 an looked at the info, but its still giving me VR address imput and I do have a backup this time if it all go`s wrong !!