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I just purchased a 720 and I'm looking for any recommendations that may make my life eaiser regarding the use of this unit. Any advise????
 
I just purchased a 720 and I'm looking for any recommendations that may make my life eaiser regarding the use of this unit. Any advise????


1. Make a full backup of the unit's contents to some location on your hard drive. Use Windows Explorer or some other file manager, not TT Home's backup option.
2. Upgrade the firmware for your unit using TTHome software.
3. Use the Map Guarantee option in TT Home to get the newest map.
4. Buy a sd card of at least 2 gigs for the unit.
5. Read threads in this and other TomTom forums about your unit and users' experiences/problems/questions, etc.
 
1. Make a full backup of the unit's contents to some location on your hard drive. Use Windows Explorer or some other file manager, not TT Home's backup option.

I've seen this advice more than one time and am curious as to the reason? My windows PC died shortly after I got my TomTom, so I had to switch to the Mac version of HOME, and maybe it's different. But when I browse to the directory which HOME uses for its backups, I don't really see anything that's missing. Is there something less than obvious which I'm not seeing there?

The backup of my 920T is 3.55GB so there can't be a whole lot that's missing. On the Mac you will find that the TomTom directory structure has been duplicated file-by-file in your documents folder using the following path:

~/Documents/TomTom/HOME/Backups/GO/Backup01/Storage/
 
I've seen this advice more than one time and am curious as to the reason? .

Make sure that Windows is set to unhide all files. There are documented cases where TT Home's backup has missed some of the unit's files, especially regarding the Loquendo folder.

I'm just repeating the warning I've seen here and elsewhere.
 
Make sure that Windows is set to unhide all files. There are documented cases where TT Home's backup has missed some of the unit's files, especially regarding the Loquendo folder.

I'm just repeating the warning I've seen here and elsewhere.

You're not "just repeating", you're actually giving sound advice. I've been a computer professional for nearly 20 years and, trust me, if something can go wrong, it will. Having a (good/working) backup is essential: maybe TomTom will push a bad firmware/map one day; maybe your file system will be damaged (you unplugged the device rather carelessly, without sync-ing it first via "Disconnect device" or "Safely unplug hardware"); maybe an electronic part of your GPS (memory, processor etc) will go belly up when you need your TomTom most - the unfortunate possibilities are not few, nor infrequent. Hence, the importance of a good backup.
I'd suggest a weekly (complete) backup and a library of at least one previous known good backup. Yes, it takes space on your disk; yes, it takes time - but, hey! on a lazy Sunday, when you're sipping your favourite beer, watching some hockey, you can dedicate an hour of your time to copying files between your TomTom and the disk of your choice. The moment will surely come when you'll be happy to have made a backup!
 
You're not "just repeating", you're actually giving sound advice.

Thanks. Something else I should have added (called learning a lesson the hard way...)

After an update from TomTom, whether it be a map, software update, anything....make sure the unit is working properly, including removing from the dock (properly), powering off and on, BEFORE making your next full backup.
 
You're not "just repeating", you're actually giving sound advice.

I think you need to read what I said again. I never suggested that you shouldn't backup your unit. I questioned whether the "wisdom" that the backups which you do using the TomTom HOME software are any worse than a "manual" backup.

I just used the unix shell to compare the contents of my Loquendo folder on the actual TomTom - showing all the hidden files and recursive subdirectories.

Looks like the forum software won't let me put this all in one post, so here's the listing from the TomTom itself:

% cd /Volumes/NO\ NAME/LoquendoTTS/
% ls -alR
total 216
drwxrwxrwx 1 ostroff staff 4096 Oct 2 16:31 .
drwxrwxrwx 1 ostroff staff 4096 Jan 1 1980 ..
-rwxrwxrwx 1 ostroff staff 602 Dec 6 2006 Carmen.vde
drwxrwxrwx 1 ostroff staff 4096 Oct 2 16:31 EnglishTE
-rwxrwxrwx 1 ostroff staff 405 Dec 6 2006 EnglishTE6.9.lde
drwxrwxrwx 1 ostroff staff 4096 Oct 2 16:31 EnglishUs
-rwxrwxrwx 1 ostroff staff 603 Jun 22 2006 EnglishUs6.9.lde
drwxrwxrwx 1 ostroff staff 4096 Oct 2 16:36 French
-rwxrwxrwx 1 ostroff staff 408 May 10 2007 French6.5.lde
-rwxrwxrwx 1 ostroff staff 495 Dec 6 2006 Juliette.vde
-rwxrwxrwx 1 ostroff staff 44 Feb 22 2007 LicenseCode.txt
drwxrwxrwx 1 ostroff staff 4096 Oct 2 16:33 SpanishEs
-rwxrwxrwx 1 ostroff staff 487 Feb 17 2006 SpanishEs6.5.lde
-rwxrwxrwx 1 ostroff staff 590 Dec 6 2006 Susan.vde
-rwxrwxrwx 1 ostroff staff 740 Feb 22 2007 default.session
drwxrwxrwx 1 ostroff staff 4096 Dec 7 20:37 lib
-rwxrwxrwx 1 ostroff staff 11977 Feb 22 2007 ttsmp124.ogg
-rwxrwxrwx 1 ostroff staff 16044 Feb 22 2007 ttsmp126.ogg
-rwxrwxrwx 1 ostroff staff 13811 Feb 22 2007 ttsmp132.ogg

./EnglishTE:
total 1536
drwxrwxrwx 1 ostroff staff 4096 Oct 2 16:31 .
drwxrwxrwx 1 ostroff staff 4096 Oct 2 16:31 ..
-rwxrwxrwx 1 ostroff staff 715632 Dec 6 2006 EnglishTE6.9.atm
-rwxrwxrwx 1 ostroff staff 42978 Dec 6 2006 EnglishTE6.9.lex
-rwxrwxrwx 1 ostroff staff 13640 Dec 6 2006 EnglishTE6.9.phd

./EnglishUs:
total 3112
drwxrwxrwx 1 ostroff staff 4096 Oct 2 16:31 .
drwxrwxrwx 1 ostroff staff 4096 Oct 2 16:31 ..
-rwxrwxrwx 1 ostroff staff 1311323 Dec 6 2006 EnglishUs6.9.atm
-rwxrwxrwx 1 ostroff staff 56200 Dec 6 2006 EnglishUs6.9.lex
-rwxrwxrwx 1 ostroff staff 188018 Dec 6 2006 EnglishUs6.9.phd
drwxrwxrwx 1 ostroff staff 4096 Oct 2 16:31 Susan
-rwxrwxrwx 1 ostroff staff 5969 Feb 22 2007 roadnr.EnglishUs6.8.lex
-rwxrwxrwx 1 ostroff staff 811 Feb 22 2007 roadnrAUS.EnglishUS6.8.lex
-rwxrwxrwx 1 ostroff staff 8152 Feb 22 2007 sms.EnglishUs6.8.lex

./EnglishUs/Susan:
total 87224
drwxrwxrwx 1 ostroff staff 4096 Oct 2 16:31 .
drwxrwxrwx 1 ostroff staff 4096 Oct 2 16:31 ..
-rwxrwxrwx 1 ostroff staff 148408 Dec 6 2006 LoqSusanGildedSde.so
-rwxrwxrwx 1 ostroff staff 2957380 Dec 6 2006 LoqSusanSde.so
-rwxrwxrwx 1 ostroff staff 130100 Dec 6 2006 LoqSusanTTSde.so
-rwxrwxrwx 1 ostroff staff 36990226 Dec 6 2006 Susan.16000.loqmsx.bin
-rwxrwxrwx 1 ostroff staff 2505187 Dec 6 2006 SusanGilded.16000.loqmsx.bin
-rwxrwxrwx 1 ostroff staff 1886855 Dec 6 2006 SusanTT.16000.loqmsx.bin
-rwxrwxrwx 1 ostroff staff 17018 Dec 6 2006 SusanTT.lex

./French:
total 288
drwxrwxrwx 1 ostroff staff 4096 Oct 2 16:36 .
drwxrwxrwx 1 ostroff staff 4096 Oct 2 16:31 ..
-rwxrwxrwx 1 ostroff staff 70507 Dec 6 2006 French6.5.atm
-rwxrwxrwx 1 ostroff staff 38380 Dec 6 2006 French6.5.lex
drwxrwxrwx 1 ostroff staff 4096 Oct 2 16:36 Juliette
-rwxrwxrwx 1 ostroff staff 9115 Feb 22 2007 roadnr.French6.5.lex
-rwxrwxrwx 1 ostroff staff 7322 Feb 22 2007 sms.French6.5.lex

./French/Juliette:
total 68464
drwxrwxrwx 1 ostroff staff 4096 Oct 2 16:36 .
drwxrwxrwx 1 ostroff staff 4096 Oct 2 16:36 ..
-rwxrwxrwx 1 ostroff staff 30848580 Dec 6 2006 Juliette.16000.loqmsx.bin
-rwxrwxrwx 1 ostroff staff 1950454 Dec 6 2006 JulietteTT.16000.loqmsx.bin
-rwxrwxrwx 1 ostroff staff 676 Dec 6 2006 JulietteTT.lex
-rwxrwxrwx 1 ostroff staff 2107504 Dec 6 2006 LoqJulietteSde.so
-rwxrwxrwx 1 ostroff staff 125916 Dec 6 2006 LoqJulietteTTSde.so

./SpanishEs:
total 192
drwxrwxrwx 1 ostroff staff 4096 Oct 2 16:33 .
drwxrwxrwx 1 ostroff staff 4096 Oct 2 16:31 ..
drwxrwxrwx 1 ostroff staff 4096 Oct 2 16:33 Carmen
-rwxrwxrwx 1 ostroff staff 57574 Dec 6 2006 SpanishEs6.5.lex
-rwxrwxrwx 1 ostroff staff 8602 Feb 22 2007 roadnr.SpanishEs6.5.lex
-rwxrwxrwx 1 ostroff staff 5016 Feb 22 2007 sms.SpanishEs6.5.lex
-rwxrwxrwx 1 ostroff staff 1017 Feb 22 2007 traffic.SpanishEs6.5.lex

./SpanishEs/Carmen:
total 60024
drwxrwxrwx 1 ostroff staff 4096 Oct 2 16:33 .
drwxrwxrwx 1 ostroff staff 4096 Oct 2 16:33 ..
-rwxrwxrwx 1 ostroff staff 25500228 Dec 6 2006 Carmen.16000.loqmsx.bin
-rwxrwxrwx 1 ostroff staff 970857 Dec 6 2006 CarmenGilded.16000.loqmsx.bin
-rwxrwxrwx 1 ostroff staff 2054887 Dec 6 2006 CarmenTT.16000.loqmsx.bin
-rwxrwxrwx 1 ostroff staff 3128 Dec 6 2006 CarmenTT.lex
-rwxrwxrwx 1 ostroff staff 75236 Dec 6 2006 LoqCarmenGildedSde.so
-rwxrwxrwx 1 ostroff staff 1942416 Dec 6 2006 LoqCarmenSde.so
-rwxrwxrwx 1 ostroff staff 162320 Dec 6 2006 LoqCarmenTTSde.so

./lib:
total 4016
drwxrwxrwx 1 ostroff staff 4096 Dec 7 20:37 .
drwxrwxrwx 1 ostroff staff 4096 Oct 2 16:31 ..
-rwxrwxrwx 1 ostroff staff 10824 Dec 7 20:37 LoqAudioBoard.so
-rwxrwxrwx 1 ostroff staff 479960 Dec 6 2006 LoqEnglish6.9.so
-rwxrwxrwx 1 ostroff staff 252656 Dec 6 2006 LoqFrench6.5.so
-rwxrwxrwx 1 ostroff staff 176616 Dec 6 2006 LoqSpanish6.5.so
-rwxrwxrwx 1 ostroff staff 722860 Dec 6 2006 LoqTTS6.so
-rwxrwxrwx 1 ostroff staff 391556 Dec 6 2006 loqMSX.so
 
And here's the backup which HOME did on my computer:

% cd /Users/ostroff/Documents/TomTom/HOME/Backups/GO/Backup01/Storage/LoquendoTTS/
% ls -alR
total 160
drwxr-xr-x 19 ostroff staff 646 Nov 26 22:02 .
drwxr-xr-x 51 ostroff staff 1734 Nov 26 22:13 ..
-rw-r--r-- 1 ostroff staff 602 Dec 6 2006 Carmen.vde
drwxr-xr-x 5 ostroff staff 170 Nov 26 22:02 EnglishTE
-rw-r--r-- 1 ostroff staff 405 Dec 6 2006 EnglishTE6.9.lde
drwxr-xr-x 9 ostroff staff 306 Nov 26 22:02 EnglishUs
-rw-r--r-- 1 ostroff staff 603 Jun 22 2006 EnglishUs6.9.lde
drwxr-xr-x 7 ostroff staff 238 Nov 26 22:02 French
-rw-r--r-- 1 ostroff staff 408 May 10 2007 French6.5.lde
-rw-r--r-- 1 ostroff staff 495 Dec 6 2006 Juliette.vde
-rw-r--r-- 1 ostroff staff 44 Feb 22 2007 LicenseCode.txt
drwxr-xr-x 7 ostroff staff 238 Nov 26 22:02 SpanishEs
-rw-r--r-- 1 ostroff staff 487 Feb 17 2006 SpanishEs6.5.lde
-rw-r--r-- 1 ostroff staff 590 Dec 6 2006 Susan.vde
-rw-r--r-- 1 ostroff staff 740 Feb 22 2007 default.session
drwxr-xr-x 8 ostroff staff 272 Nov 26 22:02 lib
-rw-r--r-- 1 ostroff staff 11977 Feb 22 2007 ttsmp124.ogg
-rw-r--r-- 1 ostroff staff 16044 Feb 22 2007 ttsmp126.ogg
-rw-r--r-- 1 ostroff staff 13811 Feb 22 2007 ttsmp132.ogg

./EnglishTE:
total 1520
drwxr-xr-x 5 ostroff staff 170 Nov 26 22:02 .
drwxr-xr-x 19 ostroff staff 646 Nov 26 22:02 ..
-rw-r--r-- 1 ostroff staff 715632 Dec 6 2006 EnglishTE6.9.atm
-rw-r--r-- 1 ostroff staff 42978 Dec 6 2006 EnglishTE6.9.lex
-rw-r--r-- 1 ostroff staff 13640 Dec 6 2006 EnglishTE6.9.phd

./EnglishUs:
total 3088
drwxr-xr-x 9 ostroff staff 306 Nov 26 22:02 .
drwxr-xr-x 19 ostroff staff 646 Nov 26 22:02 ..
-rw-r--r-- 1 ostroff staff 1311323 Dec 6 2006 EnglishUs6.9.atm
-rw-r--r-- 1 ostroff staff 56200 Dec 6 2006 EnglishUs6.9.lex
-rw-r--r-- 1 ostroff staff 188018 Dec 6 2006 EnglishUs6.9.phd
drwxr-xr-x 9 ostroff staff 306 Nov 26 22:02 Susan
-rw-r--r-- 1 ostroff staff 5969 Feb 22 2007 roadnr.EnglishUs6.8.lex
-rw-r--r-- 1 ostroff staff 811 Feb 22 2007 roadnrAUS.EnglishUS6.8.lex
-rw-r--r-- 1 ostroff staff 8152 Feb 22 2007 sms.EnglishUS6.8.lex

./EnglishUs/Susan:
total 87208
drwxr-xr-x 9 ostroff staff 306 Nov 26 22:02 .
drwxr-xr-x 9 ostroff staff 306 Nov 26 22:02 ..
-rw-r--r-- 1 ostroff staff 148408 Dec 6 2006 LoqSusanGildedSde.so
-rw-r--r-- 1 ostroff staff 2957380 Dec 6 2006 LoqSusanSde.so
-rw-r--r-- 1 ostroff staff 130100 Dec 6 2006 LoqSusanTTSde.so
-rw-r--r-- 1 ostroff staff 36990226 Dec 6 2006 Susan.16000.loqmsx.bin
-rw-r--r-- 1 ostroff staff 2505187 Dec 6 2006 SusanGilded.16000.loqmsx.bin
-rw-r--r-- 1 ostroff staff 1886855 Dec 6 2006 SusanTT.16000.loqmsx.bin
-rw-r--r-- 1 ostroff staff 17018 Dec 6 2006 SusanTT.lex

./French:
total 264
drwxr-xr-x 7 ostroff staff 238 Nov 26 22:02 .
drwxr-xr-x 19 ostroff staff 646 Nov 26 22:02 ..
-rw-r--r-- 1 ostroff staff 70507 Dec 6 2006 French6.5.atm
-rw-r--r-- 1 ostroff staff 38380 Dec 6 2006 French6.5.lex
drwxr-xr-x 7 ostroff staff 238 Nov 26 22:02 Juliette
-rw-r--r-- 1 ostroff staff 9115 Feb 22 2007 roadnr.French6.5.lex
-rw-r--r-- 1 ostroff staff 7322 Feb 22 2007 sms.French6.5.lex

./French/Juliette:
total 68448
drwxr-xr-x 7 ostroff staff 238 Nov 26 22:02 .
drwxr-xr-x 7 ostroff staff 238 Nov 26 22:02 ..
-rw-r--r-- 1 ostroff staff 30848580 Dec 6 2006 Juliette.16000.loqmsx.bin
-rw-r--r-- 1 ostroff staff 1950454 Dec 6 2006 JulietteTT.16000.loqmsx.bin
-rw-r--r-- 1 ostroff staff 676 Dec 6 2006 JulietteTT.lex
-rw-r--r-- 1 ostroff staff 2107504 Dec 6 2006 LoqJulietteSde.so
-rw-r--r-- 1 ostroff staff 125916 Dec 6 2006 LoqJulietteTTSde.so

./SpanishEs:
total 168
drwxr-xr-x 7 ostroff staff 238 Nov 26 22:02 .
drwxr-xr-x 19 ostroff staff 646 Nov 26 22:02 ..
drwxr-xr-x 9 ostroff staff 306 Nov 26 22:02 Carmen
-rw-r--r-- 1 ostroff staff 57574 Dec 6 2006 SpanishEs6.5.lex
-rw-r--r-- 1 ostroff staff 8602 Feb 22 2007 roadnr.SpanishEs6.5.lex
-rw-r--r-- 1 ostroff staff 5016 Feb 22 2007 sms.SpanishEs6.5.lex
-rw-r--r-- 1 ostroff staff 1017 Feb 22 2007 traffic.SpanishEs6.5.lex

./SpanishEs/Carmen:
total 60008
drwxr-xr-x 9 ostroff staff 306 Nov 26 22:02 .
drwxr-xr-x 7 ostroff staff 238 Nov 26 22:02 ..
-rw-r--r-- 1 ostroff staff 25500228 Dec 6 2006 Carmen.16000.loqmsx.bin
-rw-r--r-- 1 ostroff staff 970857 Dec 6 2006 CarmenGilded.16000.loqmsx.bin
-rw-r--r-- 1 ostroff staff 2054887 Dec 6 2006 CarmenTT.16000.loqmsx.bin
-rw-r--r-- 1 ostroff staff 3128 Dec 6 2006 CarmenTT.lex
-rw-r--r-- 1 ostroff staff 75236 Dec 6 2006 LoqCarmenGildedSde.so
-rw-r--r-- 1 ostroff staff 1942416 Dec 6 2006 LoqCarmenSde.so
-rw-r--r-- 1 ostroff staff 162320 Dec 6 2006 LoqCarmenTTSde.so

./lib:
total 4000
drwxr-xr-x 8 ostroff staff 272 Nov 26 22:02 .
drwxr-xr-x 19 ostroff staff 646 Nov 26 22:02 ..
-rw-r--r-- 1 ostroff staff 10824 Oct 1 16:31 LoqAudioBoard.so
-rw-r--r-- 1 ostroff staff 479960 Dec 6 2006 LoqEnglish6.9.so
-rw-r--r-- 1 ostroff staff 252656 Dec 6 2006 LoqFrench6.5.so
-rw-r--r-- 1 ostroff staff 176616 Dec 6 2006 LoqSpanish6.5.so
-rw-r--r-- 1 ostroff staff 722860 Dec 6 2006 LoqTTS6.so
-rw-r--r-- 1 ostroff staff 391556 Dec 6 2006 loqMSX.so

Maybe I'm missing something, but they look the same to me. The only difference I can discern comes from the different capacities of my computer's hard drive and the TomTom internal flash drive.

Look - there's nothing wrong with doing a backup the manual way, and I don't object to that advice. But I would like to understand the origin of the advice. Is it just superstition? Should I also stand on one leg in the corner facing North when I do a backup :rolleyes:

Maybe there's a sound reason for doing this on the PC versus the Mac? Can someone explain the reasons, or is everybody just repeating something they read elsewhere?
 
It's not scientific, but if you read thru the forum, you will see a large number of posts from people who have had unsuccessful backups using Home. So the suggestion to use Explorer to backup is just being prudent. Hardly any posts from people who backed up this way.
 
So the suggestion to use Explorer to backup is just being prudent. Hardly any posts from people who backed up this way.



EXACTLY !!

I experienced first hand the results of a bad "HOME" day.

Let those doubters find out the hard way then....sheeeeeeesh
 
One would also assume that doing a backup on a Mac using Finder would result in the same backup as Exlplore on a PC would do.

Counting the minutes till my GO920 get here. It's on the UPS truck but I don't know if it will come this morning or this afternoon. Since it's coming to a business address I hope this morning.
 
1. Make a full backup of the unit's contents to some location on your hard drive. Use Windows Explorer or some other file manager, not TT Home's backup option.
2. Upgrade the firmware for your unit using TTHome software.
3. Use the Map Guarantee option in TT Home to get the newest map.
4. Buy a sd card of at least 2 gigs for the unit.
5. Read threads in this and other TomTom forums about your unit and users' experiences/problems/questions, etc.

HELLO! I got a new 720 a couple of weeks ago and I totally love it so far. A quick question - why do you suggest getting an SD card for it? The bottom of the 720 says "no SD card required" so I am curious. Thanks,
 
You can add mp3s and audiobooks and such extras to an SD card. You can put some of these on the internal memory of the unit, but since it's limited, you can fit way more on an SD card!
 

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